Posts by Bumble Bee

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My Wife Just Called Me...

by XJW4EVR in

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she found an envelope with my name and "personal & confidential" typed on it taped to the door of our apartment.

i asked her to open it and read it, and evidently there is some evidence of apostacy that they want to review with me this saturday (4-21-06) at 7:30 pm.. the funny thing is that i have not been to a meeting since 1993, the last time i was at a circuit assembly or district convention was 1995!

i know that i have been spotted going to my church (3 blocks from the king-dumb hell).

Bumble Bee

YOU ROCK DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I LOVED reading that!!!!

BB

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Trying to find cross v. stake topics

by Sad emo in

can anybody please help me out with some links on the cross versus torture stake debate either on jwd or external sites?

i know there was a thread on here not so long ago but i can't find it.. also, if any of you long time posters can recommend any outstanding ones from the deepest recesses of jwd which you might have kept as favourites, i would be most grateful.

i have to go offline for a while now so many thanks in advance for your help.. emo

Bumble Bee

There is a short article in the latest Awake I received (I think Apr 15). The title I think was Did Jesus Really Die on a Cross.

I just skimmed over it the other day - let me know if you want a scanned copy of it.

BB

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UPSET!

by LaCatolica in

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my husband and his mother invited me to their memorial and i asked my hubby that he should come with me to easter sunday mass.

he told me that he couldn't go b/c he took an oath.. come easter sunday, my husband did not, i repeat, did not, come with me and my family to mass.their functions, i will not go!!

Bumble Bee

Can you ask him what exactly this "oath" he took was? I don't remember taking any "oath" to not attend any other religious services. I know I was told not to through the publications etc, but I did not swear an oath.

BB

6

The Special Talk, that never seemed very special.

by free2beme in

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so you work your way through this odd memorial thing, in which you feel extremely bored and very unenlightened and soon you have this "excitement" about something called the special talk.

so you attend and it is just like every other talk you heard time and time again, with nothing new and nothing all that special.

yet each year, you still titled it the special talk, knowing that it was really just the normal talk, with more hype.

Bumble Bee

Oh, and don't forget those "special" special assembly days.

You know, where only certain congregations are "invited" and you have to wear a "special" badge. I went to one with my mom (wore my sisters "special" name badge). It was the most boring afternoon imaginable. One speaker was a member of the GB (sorry can't remember his name) and I could not hear a word he was saying (mumbled most of the talk). The other was a brother from Brooklyn Bethel, was travelling CO/DO for several years and talked about the generosity of the brothers when he was travelling, how they'd let him stay in their million dollar homes, donate expensive cars etc. ( I never knew cleaners and window washers made so much money!)

This was a few years ago at Copps in Hamilton - anybody here remember it?

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10

Daily Text with comments from my crazy mom

by unique1 in

do not be loving either the world or the things in the world.

john

if we find delight in jehovahs word, the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of ones means of life will lose much of their allure.

Bumble Bee

Oh boy!

I bet she thought long and hard before writing this commentary to make sure she got in everything you said to her! I wonder if she counted her time?

BB

54

So, why did I meet with the elders?

by lola28 in

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this is my explanation as to why i met with the elders today.

when i agreed to meet with the elders last week i had made up my mind to just go in and be honest with them.

i was going to tell the elders that i no longer believed this to be the truth, and then i was just going to walk away.

Bumble Bee

Hi Lola,

I know how you feel. I have avoided so far any JC's etc, been quietly fading for about 10 years. I've been asked the questions if I feel I'm still a JW, if this is "the truth" etc and had to lie to protect min and my husbands family. You do what you have to do, each persons situation is different.

Good for you for protecting and not hurting those you love.

BB

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What First Pops Up Into Your Mind When You Hear "Jehovah's Witnesses"???

by minimus in

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now, i think "stupid".

Bumble Bee

I think about all the jokes I've heard about them on comedy shows.

I too think "where" and kinda duck down a little bit and look around.

BB

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COULD YOU KILL SOMEONE?

by Mary in

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and under what circumstances?

would you kill someone if they molested your child or your spouse?

what about drug dealers or terrorists?

Bumble Bee

There would have to be extreme circumstances. I hate to kill anything - even spiders I find in the bathtub - I try to put them outside if at all possible.

Also - what would I do with the body?

Double Edge - a humane way to get rid of the fish is to put them in the freezer in a tub of water. They will fall asleep with the cold and then die. It's the most humane way I know of for fish.

BB

47

Shunning and Friendship...two different things.

by gumby in

this thread is started as a result of our friend lola's thread about meeting with elders and why.. it was mentioned by our poster that many would see folly in worrying about offending the ladies that helped her and that they were not true friends since they would shun her were she dfed.. is this what many of you think?.

do you think if family or friends shun you after you are dfed or daed they are not "true friends"?.

well i totally disagree.. does a mother or father who lets their child die due to refusing a blood transfusion.....not love their child?

Bumble Bee

Maybe they still love you - but is that the kind of love you want?

Take a case of two brothers. Both were raised JW. One left as soon as he was able to and was never baptized. The second younger brother stayed, was baptized, aux pioneered etc. Both brothers have gotten into some trouble over the years. Brother #1 has been in and out of jail, done drugs, is an alcoholic, beats his girlfriend, distroys public property, you get the picture.

Brother #2 gets into some trouble, sins and confessed to the elders and was DF'd. Now this brother has done nothing legally wrong (not like his older brother), readily admitted what he did (which did not hurt his family or anybody else) and if he did not confess, nobody would have known what he did.

Parents are able to go out of their way to help brother #1, visit him in jail, give him money, provide him a place to stay, offer support.

Parents are not able to help brother #2 in any way because he's DF'd.

The parents say they love both their children, but because #2 is DF'd they have to follow some stupid man made rule that says they cannot have any contact with their second son. What kind of love is that?

When I saw a friend that was DF'd - I still went up to him and said Hi. When my aunt and cousin were df'd I did not shun them. I did not shun my brother. I had a good friend as a teen, she was df'd and her parents moved her out of province. I still ask about her even though her parents won't discuss her, I let them know that I still think about her and care for her. It's a choice we have to make do we want to be loyal to an "organization" or to those we love?

BB

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Do you still say you are a JW?

by architect in

the lastest study article says in a nut shell that we should tell our new workmates/employer that we are a jw..for you folks who do not attend anymore or you've got out of the "theocratic routine" do you still make it know you are a jw?

Bumble Bee

NOPE! I no longer consider myself one. I have a few close friends that know I was raised a JW. The people I work with don't know I was ever one. It's a label I don't wish to have.

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